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Re: Is Dean becoming "gayer"?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
na

Haha, I nearly typed "what a weird question" as a comment right when this was first posted. Actually, I did type it, but things froze when I tried posting, and I decided it wasn't a worthwhile enough contribution to persist. So, I totally agree. And your first paragraph is a well-phrased summary of why it's peculiar and makes little sense.

Re: Is Dean becoming "gayer"?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Ha, brain twins. :D

I really don't get why anyone would ask that at all. I mean, do they mean in a metatextual sense, as in "have the writers been deliberately writing Dean in a way that more plausibly suggests that he might have homosexual inclinations?" to which I'd still not really get it because I don't see that being the case at all.

Dean's closest relationships have been with male characters, but when hasn't that been the case? The closest people to Dean are Sam, John, Castiel, and Bobby. I would have included Lisa and Ben on that at one point, but only for a few episodes in S6. And I guess now they're pushing the "Dean and Benny are BFFs" thing pretty hard, so for now Benny can be added to that list, but even if Dean's primary relationships are with men it doesn't mean that those relationships are sexualized. And wouldn't that have to be the case if Dean were really somehow becoming "more gay"?

Seriously, it's just such a weird question.

Re: Is Dean becoming "gayer"?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-05 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, there's a tiny corner of the reasoning where I can see where they might be coming from, but that doesn't really help the whole thing make any sense. In ~Ye Olden Days~ you might have characters whose marked lack of interest in the other sex, when everyone around them is expressing such interest, was the sole cue they were gay. But I don't think things generally work that way anymore. Not that homophobia has vanished, but it manifests in some shows simply not having queer characters, and some not having their leads be queer, and also in a double standard regarding how explicitly a relationship can be shown before it's too explicit. I find it unlikely someone would decide a character will become gay and showing that solely through reduced interest in the other sex. They'd show more, or they just wouldn't do it.

And if it's not about the writers' intention (which hopefully it isn't, because really), then, um, yeah. Dean is acting less interested in sex and relationships, and it's not like there isn't a plausible explanation for that, which doesn't require imagining that he's secretly become more interested in men than women.

Sexual orientation points is the only way it makes sense. It ties in to the limited love points theory, too.