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Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

You're telling me what is standard about the show when you can't even remember most of what I'm talking about? Seems kinda off to me.

Metamorphosis? The rugaru? He's gonna turn into a monster and he's gonna kill and we have to kill him first? It was early S4. Episode 4 or 5 maybe?

The witches was the one with the guest stars from Angel.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have to keep talking to you about it, if it's bugging you that I've forgotten a detail or two over the years. Just let me know.

Anyway, I remember Metamorphosis, just not much about Jack the rugaru. I cared less about the monster of the week and more about the brother drama at the time. (And yeah, it was 4.04.)

So cool, there's one exception to the rule.

Second exception... ah, the guest stars from Angel. Weren't they too powerful for the boys to kill? Not sure I'd count that. If you can't kill something, you can't kill it.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

When the details you've forgotten directly relate to what you're talking about, yeah, I kinda expect you to know about them. Plus you admitted you didn't remember, but still maintained your position that not killing them before they killed was standard. That's why it was frustrating.

There's one giant, honking, Dean was going to kill the guy before he did anything wrong exception. The witches, IIRC, Sam and Dean didn't even give a good try to killing them, power or not. And it's not like they haven't taken out powerful beings before. Gods, even.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Not remembering details of one or two episodes means that I can't make a statement of the overall standard of how their hunts have been conducted? Oh, nonnie, I really don't think so, over 8 years of episodes. That's just ridic. And considering what the nonnie below says, I don't think you're discussing this in good faith anymore, so you and I are done.

Good night.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

When it's a point that big? It does seem a bit odd to keep arguing that you know what is standard without remembering it.

Not in good faith? Since when is presenting accurate facts not arguing in good faith? I never said Dean killed the rugaru. But he intended to, and would have if Sam hadn't intervened. In the end it was Sam who killed Jack, but by that point he'd killed, or been goaded into killing depending on how you look at it. You've just decided that doesn't count as good faith because it contradicts what you're saying.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

DA

But Dean didn't kill the Rugaru. Sam made his case for the guy and Dean agreed to wait it out and not kill him unless he killed a human and became a threat. Just like with Lenore, Dean deferred to Sam's opinion.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

the anon they were replying to

Thanks, nonnie. Ah, the vulnerabilities of my old age and faulty memory. I conceded a point that was clearly being made in bad faith.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Dean agreed to wait after Sam argued himself blue in the face over it. That's irrelevant anyway. The point was, Dean was more than willing to kill Jack before Jack killed anyone else, until Sam protested. In Dean's mind, killing Jack then was perfectly acceptable.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

But then Dean changed his mind because Sam asked him to defer to his POV and give the Rugaru the benefit of the doubt. Which Dean did! Dean's struggles with seeing the gray in the supernatural is an essential aspect of his storyline and apparently it will be an ongoing struggle for him. He made a decision which he felt was right. So did Sam. There was no arguing. They both agreed to give her the benefit of the doubt since she hadn't killed a human.

Re: S8 Ep4 Discussion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

The original point being made, and argued, was a contradiction of what you say here, and was a flat statement that letting monsters go in this situation is standard operating procedures for Sam and Dean. Which it isn't, which is why Dean struggles with it.