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spnanonhaven ([personal profile] spnanonhaven) wrote2012-06-26 12:09 am
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Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
da

Someone doesn't have to know about it for it to be a slight. Sam giving Dean the amulet very much felt like a slight against John (and a deserved one) but it still reduces the value of the amulet because it wasn't meant for Dean originally. Have you ever received a gift that was clearly meant for someone else and not you? It's thoughtless and it hurts.

Even neglected kids can be rude. It's okay to call them out on it.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
da
but it still reduces the value of the amulet because it wasn't meant for Dean originally

o.O Who are you to decide this? And Jesus you seem like an extremely bitter and negative person that knows nothing about kids or siblings.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, nonnie. No.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
da

If he wanted to slight John he could have thrown it away. Instead, he recognized that DEAN was there for him even though John wasn't, and rewarded him for it. Dean was touched by it, even as a kid. Let the damn brothers have a moment, jeez.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

It's okay if it's meaningful for you. It's also okay if it isn't meaningful for me and I don't want to see it back.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Troll alert.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
da

Not even remotely. They just don't agree with you; that's not the same thing as being a troll.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
This seems to me to be a massive reading out of context. Dean was explicitly taking on John's role by stealing gifts for Sam. Sam was acknowledging that Dean, and not John, was his real caretaker by giving him John's gift. There was never a brothers gift exchange in there anywhere. The whole situation arose out of a neglectful, abusive parent, and the ways that his absenteeism (and the lying to Sam) distorted the roles the two brothers played for each other. The kind of social etiquette reading you're giving it is weirdly inappropriate to the tragic and fucked up symbolic drama that was going on there. But it was a genuine recognition by Sam of what Dean did for him, and received by Dean as such. Thoughtless and hurtful is really not how I would describe it.

Re: How about speculation about the new mytharc?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I read it differently. It was important, to show us how the paternal figure that John should had been was now on Dean.
The fact that it was meant to be for John only adds to its importance, imo.