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Re: Summary of MASSIVE S8 spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

a the ayry rt

It's certainly not in line with his S3 characterization, but I think it's in line with what has happened to the boys since then. Whenever they throw caution out the window to save each other, they create more problems, and those problems usually end up killing people. I'm sure Sam isn't happy about Dean being in Purgatory, and unless something is Very Wrong, he'll be glad to see him back, but maybe he doesn't think he can or should rip a hole into Purgatory (which is what Dean and Sam wanted to stop Cas from doing in S6, and Cas' reasoning was "This will save the whole world").

It could be horrible onscreen. It could play out okay. I just don't want to be angry at S8 already. :)

Re: Summary of MASSIVE S8 spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I could see that (though I have no confidence that it will go that way and it's not really what's suggested by the whole happy, normal, smelling the flowers thing), but my problem with that would then be that it is far too exact an echo of Dean and Lisa. I do like that Dean didn't do anything disastrous to break Sam out, even if he was researching, and I like that he did clearly have genuinely good times and a real bond with Lisa and Ben despite lingering trauma, but I don't feel the need to see it again with Sam (especially since there's been no indication that Sam has lingering trauma. And, arghh. OK, I've said on meme that I don't expect show to really grapple with what seem to me to be logically inevitable fallout for Sam's sexuality from his experience, but for Pete's sake. After Ruby, after multiple possessions, after massive torture and heavily implied rape, and losing everything he loves, they just seems so BIZARRELY "yeah, Sam's happy and normal" and I just, I can't. I can't believe it, there is no way I can make it remotely psychologically plausible that a relationship for Sam at this point wouldn't be hugely fraught and difficult. Not impossible, not that I don't think it could be a good thing, as Dean/Lisa at least partly was, but can't they make it sound difficult and interesting? Especially if it is Sam's whole story for the missing year, with purgatory supplying all the plot factors. Argh. I just can't talk myself into being happy and resigned on this one. Maybe I am an ESG, but I am so fucking tired of Sam having external symptoms instead of serious emotional issues. And Jared's remark about how there's no more to explore with Sam don't exactly give me hopes for deep character development here.)

Re: Summary of MASSIVE S8 spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt.

Yes, Sam frolicking in the flowers getting the "normal life he always wanted" is Sam being so unhappy.


Every single thing in these spoilers points to the happy family life with 2.5 kids and a dog in the suburbs being the only life worth living. The desireable end game. FUCK THAT SHIT.