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Re: Extended TV Guide spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt


Yeah, totally this. Sam's scenes were way better then many of Dean's scenes last season. I've found Dean kind of boring and stagnant since season 6. Sam on the other hand as an individual character, I feel has really grown and shown some progress.

Re: Extended TV Guide spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Sam in general has felt to me to be far more sympathetic and intriguing. Dean had a metric fuckton of grimdark loaded on him in 6.06 that made him very dull and uninteresting. He hasn't been stagnant, I'd argue, at least not since S6 because he spent most of S6 and the first half of S7 just gradually getting worse. I'll give you that he's become stagnant in the later half of S7, though.

Sam's grown and shown progress, but it's been a rather quiet sort and it feels like it's dropped off entirely after 7.17. In general though, I've been much more impressed with Jared's acting than with Jensen's. IDK if it's because Jared had better stuff to work with or what. Sam's stuff seems meatier and more enjoyable but Dean's could have been equally so, if the writers had bothered to develop it at all.

I loved the idea of Lisa and Ben and Dean's interactions with them but S6 did just such a shitty, terrible job at developing their characters and how they impacted Dean. They had wonderful potential but it wasn't lived up to. Sam lucked out in that regard; it feels like they wimped out on his storyline after 7.17 as well, but at least he had almost two full seasons of well thought out, well rationalized, and well developed growth.

Re: Extended TV Guide spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I found Dean very sympathetic and intriguing in s6. Actually, in a sort of long s6 that ran through 7.3. I began to have a harder time with his character right at 7.4 to 7.5, when the confrontation with his guilt went nowhere except lol Lindbergh baby -- I really wanted it to be a Dean changing point, like 5.4 or 7.18, and it really wasn't. Nor was the Mentalists, another possible turning point. I don't think he was necessarily wrong in his decision to kill Amy, but when it came to the lying to Sam and family does the dirty work, Dean seemed to think that what he needed to do was feel bad about it and let Sam know he'd felt bad about it, rather than recognize a pattern of behavior and change it.

But one of the most frustrating things about s7 Dean for me is that I did see some elements of genuine hope in the latter half of the season, especially with Krissy and in Plucky's, where he seemed to be looking back at his and Sam's past with a more balanced eye and a kind of fellow-feeling with both who he had been and who Sam had been. I can't help thinking that if the writers had taken the elements they had with Dean and arranged them in a pattern, and then brought it to a head at the end of the season, it could have worked. There were actually paths for Dean to grow, it was just like the writers would take one step down them and then stop.

Re: Extended TV Guide spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

SA

like 5.4 or 5.18, I meant. Time for dinner.