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Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
na

I don't get the praise of Natalie Portman for not having had plastic surgery. Congratulations on having good genes, I guess, but we're supposed to give her a cookie for being genetically blessed? It's not like she did anything to earn those looks. This is just another way of creating the pressure that makes women feel like they need plastic surgery.

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
na

OT, but what's up with the Natalie Portman stanning on meme the past couple of days? Am I the only one here who finds her completely meh? I'm sure she's a lovely person and I haven't nothing against her, but I don't think she's anything more than averagely pretty and she's an okay actress but I wouldn't seek her out.

If you want to talk about naturally beautiful women, how about Kate Winslet?

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Congratulations on having good genes, I guess, but we're supposed to give her a cookie for being genetically blessed?

Meh, this fandom does it all the time for Jared and Jensen.

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/kate-winslet-anti-cosmetic-surgery-league_n_929532.html

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I have nothing against looking at photos of hot people. I have nothing against talking about how hot hot people are. I just think it's weird when we act like natural hotness is something that's inherently praiseworthy, like it's proof of good morals or something (which is what I think the airt was hinting at with the Megan Fox comparison, although that might be me reading in the sorts of comments I've seen elsewhere), when it's really just a genetic accident.

So I'm all for saying "yay Jensen is hot!" I'm not all for saying "Jensen is better than [male actor x] because he is naturally hot," which is the vibe I'm getting here.

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
ITA. Every celebrity with a nice nose is accused of having a nose job. Heck, on a whim I googled a bunch of random actresses and lo and behold, every single one of them supposedly went under the knife:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Fzq94YVbHHM/Ssz3z0hm0EI/AAAAAAAAjY0/GlPumlDX7cg/s400/stars_plastic_surgery_13.jpg

http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/leighton-meester-yearbook-photo.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/TTDJ7hhCHoI/AAAAAAAB1wI/YbtRgAIyl4k/s400/celebrity_nose_job_32.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/TTDKUmcswHI/AAAAAAAB1xQ/F0uMPAlTlA4/s400/celebrity_nose_job_23.jpg

I find it funny how it's usually a blurry "before" high school photo where they're smiling - which makes the nose bigger, duh - placed to next to a high quality "after" photo when they're in full makeup. I think some definitely have gotten work done but not everyone with pretty features got them at the plastic surgeon's office.

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I mean, pretty much every culture in the world has equated and continues to equate beauty as being a marker of some greater "quality" in a person. Books (think of all the fairy tales where the pretty heroine is pitted against an ugly villain), movies, music. That's why even now, in 2012, celebrities continue to lie about having work done. It's why the fact that so-and-so had a nose job or breast implants is deemed worthy of a headline in some trashy gossip magazine. The idea that one can buy an attractive mask has such a stigma because of centuries worth of conditioning. It's "Snow White was fairest in all the land," not "Snow White got herself some collagen injections and a nose job and she was hotter than all the other broads in the kingdom." So I don't think it's bizarre that cosmetic surgery is going to get a reaction.

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt


I mean, pretty much every culture in the world has equated and continues to equate beauty as being a marker of some greater "quality" in a person.


I agree with you, but I think it's really harmful for us to perpetuate the connection between beauty and inherent worth. If we continue to suggest that Snow White's genetically arbitrary beauty is proof of her worthiness as a heroine, it's hardly surprising that some other young woman might feel the need for surgery.

Beauty is good, it's not a sign of moral worthiness, any more than plastic surgery should be a sign of moral turpitude.

Re: Plastic surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-06 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
It's just ugliness hidden by a perfect mask. Think of Warren Beatty, who sleeps with underage girls. Or Paris Hilton, a vile racist. Or Mark Wahlberg, who beat up a Vietnamese man with a stick while hurling racial slurs, rendering him blind in one eye. Meanwhile, the idiots on tumblr reblog pictures of Jensen's eyes in ultra saturated colors, or Danneel in a thong on top of a car, or Jared posing in a wifebeater two sizes too small and oohing and ahhing even though they know jack shit about them as people. Just because your DNA happened to interlock in a certain way doesn't mean you're worth more as a person.

Dexter *SPOILERS*

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
Finally saw the 6th season and damn. They're really going there.


SPOILERS








I'm surprised that they finally bit the bullet and had Deb find out, tbh. But beyond that, holy shit, I can't believe they actually did the incest thing. I'm still sorting out my thoughts on how I feel about that but as of right now I kinda hate it. It doesn't make sense at all and I really don't know how they're going to sustain the relationship for the next two seasons (which is when it's supposed to end). Thoughts?

Re: Dexter *SPOILERS*

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
I've only seen the first season of Dexter, but IIRC, they're not blood related. So it's not really incest, a la Jamie and Cersei or something. Either way, though, I think it's a horrible idea.

Re: Dexter *SPOILERS*

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
They pretty much grew up together though. I just looked up 'incest' on webster and it was defined as "sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry; also : the statutory crime of such a relationship." Nothing there about blood relations. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

Re: Dexter *SPOILERS*

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this for real?

I don't have Showtime, so I don't see each season until the DVDs come out. I can't imagine how it could be possible that Deb and Dexter moved toward a exual relationship in one season.

Re: Dexter *SPOILERS*

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
na

Dexter didn't, just Deb. She went to a weirdo therapist who told her she had the hots for her brother and she should really go for it. It was pretty WTF-worthy.

Re: Dexter *SPOILERS*

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Wow. Okay. Thanks!

Re: Movies that will awaken the conscience.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

You seem to be reading a lot into my motivations here.

trying to be an actual adult.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-11 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
So, CNA training here (PA) is $1,000 and 4 weeks. No financial help. I went to a place that's supposed to help you out w/ employment and they pretty much said RN all the way, can anyone confirm that the money spent is worth it? Also, if I got the CNA BS would that be good to get a job w/ and utilize while (IF) I was in nursing school?

Re: trying to be an actual adult.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-11 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about where you are but where I am if you become a CNA and start working at the hospital then you have the chance to get into a program where the hospital will help pay for you to become a RN but you will have an, umm, contract to work there for a certain length of time. I would look and see if any hospitals or nursing homes in your area may have any programs like that. If nothing else, being a CNA might give you a leg up in a certain places as you work. The hospital that I worked at very much loved to hire from within so working there as a CNA offered me more opportunities to job openings.

I'm not sure if that helped, sorry.

Re: trying to be an actual adult.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-11 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
My sister and my best friend are nurses, and I can't honestly recall them talking about CNA versus RN. One of the high schools here offers a track that allows students to earn a CNA alongside the high school diploma, so it's not something that people generally go back to school for.

They have talked a lot about the difference in employability between an ADN and a BSN, though, as being quite large and worth taking the extra two years, if that helps.

Margaret Cho

(Anonymous) 2012-01-13 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"I have some wonderful new tattoos on my ass by the incredible Cris Cleen, who I love, and I posted a picture of them on Twitter, which got many favorable comments — but there were two negative ones, and I blew a fucking gasket. I screamed out loud and tracked the perps down and blocked them, but not before really ramming it to them in the strongest language I could use. It was over the top and really kind of ridiculous, but I cannot help myself.

Some outside Facebook observer said that my "language" was too much and told me that I had "lost a fan" because she couldn't condone my "language." I am sorry for that, as I love my fans, and it sucks to lose one, but obviously she doesn't understand that when you grow up the way that I did, with kids at school throwing rocks at my face because they hated it because it was so ugly to them and they wanted the blood from my wounds to cover it so it wouldn't have to be seen and at summer camps stuffed dog shit in my sleeping bag because I was told time and again that I looked like shit — and that I had to empty myself in the dark forest and still sleep in smelling that shit all that night and for weeks after because my family was too poor to afford a new one — my "language" is on the strong side. I apologize for offending the former fan, but I am only myself. That is all I can be, and if I must apologize for that, I don't mind. All I am trying to say is that no young girl should be told she is ugly. If she is, you kill her spirit, and she may grow up like me, and lose a fan.

I grew up hard and am still hard and I don't care. I did not choose this face or this body and I have learned to live with it and love it and celebrate it and adorn it with tremendous drawings from the greatest artists in the world and I feel good and powerful like a nation that has never been free and now after many hard won victories is finally fucking free. I am beautiful and I am finally fucking free.

I fly my flag of self-esteem for all those who have been told they were ugly and fat and hurt and shamed and violated and abused for the way they look and told time and time again that they were "different" and therefore unlovable. Come to me and I will tell you and show you how beautiful and loved you are and you will see it and feel it and know it and then look in the mirror and truly believe it. If you are offended by my anger and my might at defending my borders and my people you do not deserve entry into my beloved and magnificent country.

If you were raised lovingly and told you were perfect and beautiful and loved and the best at all things, I am just jealous. You had it much better, and so you really should spread that love around as opposed to judging those like me who never had that, never knew what it was like and never could even imagine it. I could learn from you instead of feeling judged by you. Give the less loved and less cared for and less treasured a chance. If I had that opportunity, then my language and attitude might not be so offensive. If I had been told once when I was a little girl that I was pretty (other than when I was being sexually molested – that doesn't count) it might have made me nicer. It just didn't happen. So I had to make do and make up for it myself. And that made me a bit on the edgy side. It made me a bit of a bitch.

When someone says something negative about my face or body I will always and forever just completely lose my shit, because I have so much hatred in me, a violence that lies just beneath the surface of my delightfully illustrated skin. Being called ugly and fat and disgusting to look at from the time I could barely understand what the words meant has scarred me so deep inside that I have learned to hunt, stalk, claim, own and defend my own loveliness and my image of myself as stunningly gorgeous with a ruthlessness and a defensiveness that I fear for anyone who casually or jokingly questions it, as my anger and rage combined with my intense and fearsome command of words create insults meant to maim, kill and destroy."

(read the full article here - wasn't able to post all of it because of the character limit)
http://jezebel.com/5875219/

Re: Margaret Cho

(Anonymous) 2012-01-13 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Umm, IDK how to respond?

Other than it being over the top, good on her.

Re: Margaret Cho

(Anonymous) 2012-01-13 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? Who wasn't bullied as a kid, seriously. Cry moar.

Re: Margaret Cho

(Anonymous) 2012-01-13 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhh, that wasn't exactly what I said...

Re: Margaret Cho

(Anonymous) 2012-01-13 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok? IDK who Margaret Cho is, but good for her, she seems very articulate and well resolved. Where are you going with this post exactly?

FUCK GOOGLE

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
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