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Silent Majority

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.tvequals.com/2012/06/12/supernatural-chat-4-wishes-for-season-8/

Erika 6 hours ago
I'd like for Sam to get his own fully up front and center POV on the show finally. I keep waiting and it never happens, so much is from Dean's POV now that Sam is voiceless even on his own story lines. I am dead sick of it, and I can't think of another show that would pull this with a lead character. So, More Sam, his POV, and delving into him psychologically for real. It's been 2 years and I STILL don't know what happened to Sam in the Cage with Lucifer and Michael. This storyline should NOT be over by a long shot, because it never happened on my tv screen. Sam also needs friends, a best friend of his own, or a girl friend. He needs someone if Dean is not talking to him, which happened all last season. Who has Sam's back? Sam needs more attention, focused, serious attention from the writers/producers.

I'd like for the Real Dean to show up, the one who would have killed Castiel in a hot second for hurting and nearly killing Sam. Not the one who kept the trench coat of the monster who hurt Sam. Yes, Dean and Castiel are friends, but they weren't in season 6 or 7, not really. And there are some lines you shouldn't cross. Castiel crossed all of them and Dean letting him get away with it out of sentimentality doesn't jibe with me at all. I also don't want Dean to come back angry and resentful of Sam for any reason. He's been in that mode since season 4, and I'm tired of it. I really dread Dean's Purgatory story for many reasons, most of which is how Sam got side lined and spat on after Dean got back from Hell in season 4. It just sounds like a repeat of seasons 4 and 6 to me. So, something new on that front, I guess.

I'm okay with the Real Castiel coming back, but only if he pays for his sins the way Sam did. By silently sucking it up and doing what's right. So far, Crazy Castiel has only been used to let him get away with being the one who Collapsed Sam's Wall in the first place. Which is like Castiel hurting Sam all over again, by stealing away any sympathy Sam should have gotten for being Damaged in the Cage. To me, this is like a rape victim thanking her rapist for dropping her off at the hospital afterwards, then being declared a hero for saving her. Um, no, it's just wrong, and they never should have done this in the first place. I found Crazy Cas neither cute nor funny. So, the real one can come back but only for a set number of episodes, which is more appropriate for his character. 4 episodes is good, 6 maximum. More than that will be bad writing again.

A focused storyline! SPN dearly needs a sense of focus again, as well as proper character writing in EVERY EPISODE, with the focus right on Sam and Dean's Relationship as Brothers. I've never watched SPN for plotting or writing, but I have watched it for Sam and Dean. Without Sam and Dean being SamandDean, there is no SPN. So, how about a 50/50 Sam and Dean POV on the show where even if they are apart to give the boys more time off, it is still focused on them caring about the other and what the other is going through, not to mention their own internal issues. And no giving Deam emo and Sam the case, or Dean the case and Sam the emo. Remember season 1 when they could talk about themselves all through an episode, and it was natural dialogue, and they felt like family?

Also, no false family more than blood set ups just to produce Angst, please! Every tv show has cobbled together families. SPN is unique because Sam and Dean grew up together, depended for their lives on each other, and withstood time alone together. Friends are fine, but they aren't Sam and Dean. Period.

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Funny, I didn't see any of this on Silent Majority's 'we don't hate Cas' manifesto. Seems they aren't that keen on Dean either.

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AAARRGGGH

CAN WE STOP COMPARING FICTIONAL THINGS TO RAPE

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BB Support Thread!

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Because every post needs one!

How are we doing, nonnies? I'm trying to edit mine right now and it's making me sleepy just thinking about it

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I'm not writing a BB.

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places to find SPN newbies?

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Meme, I'm sort of new to SPN fandom, and I'd like to find some other relatively new people to squee with - folks for whom the excitement is still fresh and new, who are busily make fanworks and haven't had all the interesting arguments ten times already.

Can anyone recommend a good place for trying to find such folks? Does SPN have a friending meme? Alternately, does anyone want to recommend any new such fans they've noticed? (I should probably mention that I'm mostly gen-inclined in this fandom, and I don't usually have a lot to talk about with folks who are all slash, all the time.)

Help? Feel free to self-rec - no one will know the difference. :)

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm normally a bitter!nonnie on here but my god, you sound absolutely and refreshingly adorable. <3

There really aren't any spaces I visit that have what you're looking for, but I hope some other nonnies can help you out!

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TNT Rewatch: Death Takes A Holiday/On The Head Of A Pin

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.tntdrama.com/series/supernatural/

Death Takes A Holiday
Sam and Dean seek help from Pamela, who sends the brothers to the spiritual realm. They discover Alastair attempting to break the seal causing mayhem in the mortal world by stopping death from occurring in a small town.

On The Head Of A Pin
Someone has killed seven angels, and Castiel and Uriel recruit Dean to interrogate their prisoner, Alastair, to learn who the killer is.

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Oh OTHOAP, how you opened up my slash appreciating life.

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Mishalecki primer post

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
http://spnroundtable.livejournal.com/324299.html

*-* This is glorious.

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^____________^

Like a breathe of fresh air with a crytal goblet of ripe sweet strawberry.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wanted to make the 82nd comment on post 82.

I did so.

Carry on.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
...my wayward son~~~

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Springfling recs?

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
We're over halfway through and already there are so many that I'm overwhelmed and have no idea what to read or look at first (while I wait for them to post mine /o\). The FD post helps, but the majority of the fills don't have comments on them and I'm curious.

Meme, help!

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I don't like giving rec half way, it seem so unfair to the ones that are posted later on. Besides, can't you just randomly pick a few of them? These are short fics, even if they sucked, it's not a tremendous lost of your time.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Has anyone else seen that page over at the SuperWiki that catalogues all of the clothes worn by actors at cons?

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Convention_Clothing_Guide

Not gonna lie, it kind of weirds me out. But maybe I'm a super-sensitive snowflake. You nonnies decide.

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I cannot believe anybody actually cares enough about the actors' clothes to make a list. *boggles* Am I too normal?

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Real-world phenomena that would make interesting fic

(Anonymous) 2012-06-13 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Courtesy a random thought I had at work about the Capgras delusion. What random real-world things would you like to see show up in a fic?

The Capgras delusion is a syndrome whereby a person believes that someone they know has been replaced by an identical impostor. Here's the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion  The fallout from one or the other of the Winchesters developing it (either naturally or as the result of a curse) could be horrifying, which is to say, awesome. My first thought was of Dean developing it about Sam, to echo the show's theme of Sam actually not being himself, but the reverse could be at least as interesting.

There's a lightning storm in Venezuela that's been going on almost continuously for centuries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catatumbo_lightning  Fuck air currents, some sort of supernatural shit is clearly at work here.

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I saw a Criminal Episode where the unsub had Capgras syndrome ;___; it was terribly sad.

And yep, the Catatumbo lightning is something you have to see to believe. But it is really beautiful.

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Hit my kinks better!

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Mini-wank at the kink meme: http://spnkink-meme.livejournal.com/59489.html?thread=17839457#t17839457

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I can't click that link at work. Sum it up, nonnie

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TNT Rewatch: It's A Terrible Life/Monster At The End Of This Book, The

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http://www.tntdrama.com/series/supernatural/

It's A Terrible Life
Dean and Sam now lead ordinary lives. Dean works in the corporate world at the Sandover Bridge & Iron Company along with Sam who works as a Tech Support. Both have no idea who the other is until their colleagues start killing themselves.

Monster At The End Of This Book, The
Sam and Dean come across a series of novels called Supernatural depicting their lives as demon hunters in detail. The brothers meet the author of the comics, Chuck, who explains he has visions of Sam and Dean in action then puts their adventures in his novels.

Re: TNT Rewatch: It's A Terrible Life/Monster At The End Of This Book, The

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Smith & Wesson forever. Still my fave S4 episode

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Top/bottom

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Because it's been talked about before, but I'm bored and curious.

Do you have a specific top/bottom preferences for certain pairings or characters? (Always like Sam as a bottom except that you like him to top Cas, that sort of thing.) Do you read different top/bottom set ups but only draw/write a set dynamic? Do you prefer it when your favorite tops, bottoms, or switches in kinkfic? What about in longer, non kink stories?

Curiosity and all that.

Not doing SCIENCE because, sorry mates, but I'm not going to be doing graphs. I do not have that mad talent. :(

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Sam/Dean: Sam tops
Dean/Cas: Dean tops
Sam/Cas: Cas tops
J2: Jared tops
Mishalecki: Misha topping from the bottom
Cas/Bal: Bal tops
Dean/Alastair: Alastair top
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Which SPN ship would you never understand?

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For me, it's definitely Sam/Lucifer. I don't get how people can find that kind of torture and rape appealing. It's so twisted.

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Gabriel/anyone (except for Kali)

I can't see the appeal. God knows I tried to read some fics but I don't get it.

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Guess who? Springfling edition

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It's almost the end of Springfling, time for some "Guess who?". Did you guess some of the authors/artists?

I suck at guessing authors but I guessed some of the artists:

- The war outside your door keeps raging on (http://spnspringfling.livejournal.com/25795.html): petite-madame
- It's raining cats (http://spnspringfling.livejournal.com/25262.html#cutid1): lamapan
- Born to run (http://spnspringfling.livejournal.com/36641.html#cutid1): salty_catfish
- Open up some happiness (http://spnspringfling.livejournal.com/28084.html#cutid1): ordinary_ink

What about authors?

Re: Guess who? Springfling edition

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-You Gonna Eat That? - http://spnspringfling.livejournal.com/32794.html - Quickreaver

Woefully behind on reading/viewing.

But I need to go trawl through all the art, because I see one of my favourite artists has received something and I have not yet spotted their submission.

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Pairings you never thought you'd be into but are now curious about

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What's on the tin.

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I've never been into any Cas pairing except the occasional Dean/Cas or Cas/Sam, but I saw some artwork for Lucifer/Cas the other day and whoa. Suddenly I realized that their dynamic would hit my kinks hard. Something about the two of them both being rebel angels on the run from Heaven and Lucifer's line about how Castiel is a peculiar thing and yeah. I'd read it. I'd read a lot of it. I don't know if any of it even exists, but the art got me really interested.

Dean/Cas in general also fits that role. Sam/Cas fits more of the tropes I tend to enjoy in pairings and I used to be strongly in favor of Dean and Cas only as friends, but then S6 happened and epic break ups and suddenly I was intrigued. Early S4 style Dean/Cas would also be fantastic but there's like nothing these days that seems to capture that dynamic anymore, woe.

Meme's got me more interested than I ever thought I'd be in Kevin/Sam, too.

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Since we're doing this, I thought I'd add one of my own :D

For me: Cas/Bal. I was all set to ship it big time, but then Cas killed him, and I just can't forget that ending :(

Re: Pairings you were all set to ship, but canon got in the way

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Nothing. Canon has always perfectly reflected my interpretation of the characters.

Even Bobby/Rufus.

(Note: since I tend to shift everyone/Dean, it's not like this was hard. He's like black-- it just goes with everything.)

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Writing Resources

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nonnies I have a problem: I have lots of good fic ideas which I promptly begin to write but then give up on because I lose inspiration, get stuck on a plot point and give up, etc. etc. (I'm also really bad at writing in a linear fashion which is why I can never do WIPs, I always end up going back and changing bits and pieces from various parts of my fic before it's a finished piece)

So, what are your favorite writing resources? Please to be sharing. Mostly I love reading about the writer's process, how they outline it (if they outline it) how they work past writer's block and so on, especially if it's a fanfic writer, not necessarily profic (altho that is welcome as well.)

Re: Writing Resources

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I'm not really sure what you mean by resources. I write longfics (not LL long, but above the 15k mark) with regularity, but it wasn't always like that. I started small, working out styles and personal techniques first with short pieces, including kink meme stuff. I just kept writing and writing and eventually got into a creative headspace where I could concentrate on longer fics and want to see them through.

Basically, it might not be a good idea to start with long fics straight off. Try shorter things: snippets, drabbles, ficlets, and figure out how your brain works when you write, what kind of turns of phrases or structuring you're comfortable with.

Podfic?

(Anonymous) 2012-06-15 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Help me nonnies!

I have a long car trip tomorrow, so I wanted to DL some audiofic, but when I went to the archive I realized there's way more than I realized.

Anyone have any good audiofic recs? I would greatly appreciate not being bored tomorrow.

(It's 6 hours of me driving alone, then 3 more hours of driving with my family. HELP.)

Re: Podfic?

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idk what pairings you read but meansprite has a really nice reading voice. you might want to look through her journal and see if you find anything you like :)

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TNT Rewatch: Jump The Shark/Rapture, The

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http://www.tntdrama.com/series/supernatural/

Jump The Shark
Sam and Dean are on a hunting trip when they receive a call from an Adam Milligan, who is trying to find John Winchester. They discover that Adam was conceived 19 years ago when his mother fell in love with John Winchester.

Rapture, The
Dean has a dream about Castiel asking to meet him in private. Sam and Dean are shocked to discover Castiel's human host, Jimmy, is back in control. Jimmy wants his life back but Sam and Dean believe he is in danger.

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NOOOOOVAAKKKKSSSSSS!!!!! *_____*

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Meme is dead

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So who is going to write the crossover fic with Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter?

Re: Meme is dead

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Who's gonna write the crossover with this?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5kmebMSCJ1qhmf1wo1_500.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4uwl1NHpQ1qhtdfno2_500.gif

And by "write" I mean "draw".
And by "draw" I mean "direct the movie".

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CW 2012 Summer Sizzle Preview

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It's summer, it's The CW, and you know it's going to be hot! Don't miss the lineup this season on The CW.

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I'm still in awe at the way that they actually have a show called "Oh Sit!" About musical chairs. Just... why?

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LOL

(Anonymous) 2012-06-16 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
http://spn-silentmjrty.livejournal.com/profile

How interesting to see the person who is running it is also on the deantoon user info http://deantoon.livejournal.com/profile

No, not Cashaters at all are they?

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There are no Dean toons there. :(

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